Today, my emailers do all the work for me and bird dog some World of Warcraft forum fun.
Emailer Indy (who never goes on an adventure without a hat) found some loot drama on the Hunter forums from a disgruntled Karazhan raider: /sigh .. Q about raiding loot.
As Indy noted and as you can see, Fubarius, level 70 hunter of the Vashj realm, posted his loot QQ from his main account and *GASP!* word got back to the guild. Fubarius, model guild citizen and stellar raider wrote:
A hunter in my guild is a female character and female IRL. Her husband is kind of a main healer and she gets ALL the hunter loot. She’s a complete “Loot !**##”
When she got the t4 legs they said in vent “So ____ how many blow jobs did it take you to get that?”
Basically she kisses up.
Is this fair? I lost all the tier gear to her. It’s really not fair, i’m stuck in mostly full blues while she rocks the epics.. /sigh
Yes, yes, calling an officer’s (real life) wife a whore is a good idea!
Bla bla, some replies about the pros and cons of loot councils and DKP systems that we don’t care about and then BOOM, The Guild arrives:
Page 3, reply #40, Infamous, level 70 warrior of Fubarius’ guild has a different opinion:
actually its not because shes a female. when we were considering who to give the tier5 shoulders, the only time your name came up was when every1 decided who was NOT getting them.
personally i picked drakko for tier5 but she has been to SLIGHTLY more raids and the other officers wanted her to have them instead, i just wanted to get on with some more loot so i shrugged and let them lootmaster it to her.
anyway after reading this, i was gonna wait til u logged on to gkick u, but a certain paladin spoiled my fun immediately after reading what i said.
u dont deserve tier 4 ANYTHING, i raided in apocalypse for 2 months and only got tier4 gloves cuz rootz thought i perma respecced prot, u are surely not getting tier 5 shoulders after raiding for like 1month and crying the whole time while contributing NOTHING.
did u ever farm those primals? did u ever raise your tradeskills like we asked u to? looking in my mail RIGHT NOW, i can see that she sent me nightmare seed and her husband sent me some +30 stamina buff food. is that called sucking up? no, its called using tradeskills to benefit the guild, i am a maintank so i use these things to win fights and get people loot. i am a blacksmith and i bring sharpening stones, u know this because time after time u have opened a trade window on me and time after time i have given u one just for that lil extra bit of crit that might help turn a near wipe into a victory. however that does us no good when u die on every karazhan fight, but thats another story.
u never even deserved Legacy over her, u just took advantage of her kindness in letting u sub in for her, and that was Astriel’s decision not mine. he has since regretted it as much as i have. she is one of the least greedy people i have raided with, she had asked many times to have her tier tokens passed to her friend (a gnome mage) but we decided against it cuz of other items being available.
sorry hunters im not trying to incite forum drama, im just trying to clear my guilds name. nubarius here has long been something of a joke on this server, we decided to give him one “last chance” by inviting him into this guild and look how it turned out.
he wipes us constantly with his terrible pulling and trapping, he ninja looted fiend slayer boots from chess event before we made the loot decision, he even logged off after void reaver and logged in vent to listen during doomwalker without taking part in the fight and i was willing to see past all that. but making a whiny loot %#**% thread like this was the last straw. i told u numerous times to step your game up and to stop this forum business, thank u for proving that u are incapable of doing either.
oh yea to respond to some of the replys i saw while glancin thru, shes not an officers wife, and fubarius lost the last few “friends” he had on this server by making this thread. the way he acts in this game, i wouldnt be surprised if he doesnt have any friends in real life either.
that should about cover everything, feel free to remind me if i left anything out fubarius
So. We learned that calling a guildmate’s wife a whore on a public forum from our main account is a bad idea. Actually, WE didn’t learn that, we already knew that. Maybe Fubarius learned that though. Maybe.
There’s a few side discussions which are interesting though: Loot Councils (especially for Karazhan, wtf) and the responsibilities of a raid leader.
First, Loot Councils, in my opinion, are a nice ideal. (Nub tutorial: A loot council system distributes game loot via council decision, i.e. merit) I’ve been in a few guilds that used a loot council, either for all the loot or for loot of a certain level, either primo or deprecated.
As I said, nice ideal, the problem is this: no matter the guild, no matter the council, no matter the shit loot being given away, there’s always the stink of favoritism. Are we not human? Yes, we are. As humans, our perspective is always skewed to our own selves. I know 100% of what I’ve done for the guild, but I know maybe 50% of what Guildmate14 has done. Therefore, Guildmate14 has done half of what I’ve done for the guild and I deserve everything.
Cuz I’m human and stupid. It’s all science.
Second, Raid Leader responsibilities. This discussion kicks up around page 3, reply #54:
Maybe you should stop being a %%@@@ and start being a RL and help him? If you are going to sit idely by and watch him suck, laugh to yourself, then /gkick him your guild deserves to fall apart. You’re an idiot for taking him in, an even bigger one for not trying to strengthen him to help the guild.
and reply #61:
Giving him options? Options can be declined or accepted. You, as a raid leader, have an OBLIGATION to help him in whatever raid you can. If you have to, force him to spec/dps the right way. Direct him to threads or even these forums for assistance. Options does not improve a human, options only shows a human that you don’t know how to lead.
Oh ya, these replies are all by Velkyria, level 70 hunter who is well known
on the hunter forums in the hunter community at large. See reply #64, he (she) gives the creds:
I am not random, I am actually well known amongst the Hunter populace. Try again, though, sugarplun
A raid leader is responsible for many things, could not pay me enough to take that job. (Also, I’m not very good at it.)
Designing strats, the heavy /sighing on Vent after a wipe, knowing every class’ abilities and specs, calling the raid cuz it’s going NOWHERE, inviting the right combo of healers, tanks, DPS, etc. … all that and more is the raid leader’s job. Holding hands, working with the learning disability crowd after raid, lending a sympathetic ear … OPTIONAL activities for the raid leader.
Unless other servers have a much different economy than my own, raid leaders are not getting paid. They are not contractual educators with tenure and health benefits. They are volunteers performing a much needed function for their guild.
Most players, however, are not talented raid leaders (for example, me). When you find an outstanding raid leader, you follow him (or her) from guild to guild to guild, because you will never want for loot or high adventure. You don’t whine that the RL isn’t teaching the nublets how to farm materials or how to socket gems or evalutating everyone’s spec. You keep your mouth shut and your armor shined because you don’t want that job. It’s thankless hard work made all the more thankless by ungrateful pricks.
Sure, there are some guilds whose officers and raid leaders will hold hands and offer additional classes for the raid-challenged. Those guilds are called FEEDER GUILDS, which also perform a much needed function. 😀
(Thanks Indy, good find!)