BlizzCon: Raids & Dungeons

While I like costumed gamers as much as the next guy, I’m mostly interested in the 2007 BlizzCon news about the expansion’s raid and dungeons changes and additions.

The best writeup I’ve found of the Raids & Dungeons panel was WarCry’s. Skipping the PowerPoint crap, the meat of the panel was:

* Possibly one new 5 man before next expansion.
* KTM and Deadly Boss Mods built into game.
* Ideas for an Item Rack functionality that has extra storage space for alternate sets of gear.
* New 25 man before expansion that is higher level/better gear than Black Temple. It was hinted, but not confirmed that this could be related to Sunwell and Northrend.
* Naxxramas could be redone as an introductory raid dungeon for Northrend to allow those who didn’t get to see the fight a chance to see the fight.
* Horde will be getting fear ward.
* Healing Priest raid vitality is being looked at.
* Possible guild based attunement or account based attunements.

Wow. See how long that development timeline is? Here’s how long ago these were ID’d as serious problems by players:

New 5-man – somewhat recently, i.e. mid Burning Crusade
KTM and DBM – late 2005/early 2006
Extra storage for resist gear – mid 2005
New 25-man – this was the “applause point” for the panel. Did the crowd erupt? Good.
Naxxramas – pre-BC. We’ll be having the same discussion when Expansion #3 is announced about the Black Temple.
Horde’s fear ward – early 2005
Healing raid priests – early BC
Guild-based attunements, aka Karazhan relief – early BC

Also of interest to me was The MMO Gamer’s audience with Tigole. Mr. Kaplan to you/Tigole wants to retune Naxxramas, which will probably take five years, but anyways:

So what I want to do in Northrend is to take Naxxramas in all of its glory, scale it down to the 25 man raid size, and then take the difficulty and retune it — obviously we’d tune for level 80, it would no longer be tuned for level 60, since that would be a little silly and it wouldn’t be a lot of fun for people at that point — but I want to put rewards in there that are very exciting to level 80 players, but make it the entry-level raid, very accessible, tune the encounters so that there’s something for everybody to do, and let the majority get a chance to see that content that they hadn’t seen before.

Much credit to Steven Crews, the interviewer — he stated up front that he was choosing topics and questions midway between softballs and 90 mph fastball screamers, which he did admirably — and then came the “oh snap!”.

The interview was thus concluded. As we stood up to shake hands and say our farewells, he asked me, “Were you a guild leader in EverQuest, too? I assumed that’s what you meant when you said you could relate.”

“No, actually,” I said, “I was the leader of the top guild on my server in WoW.”

“Ah. So, do you still play WoW?”

“No,” I admitted sheepishly. “I quit about a year and a half ago. I took one look at the patch notes with the requirements to open AQ and said to myself, ‘I’m getting the hell out of here.'”

That’s pretty damn funny.

The fastball screamer would have been, “Ya, Legacy of Steel steamrolled us on Avatar of War.” and walk off the mound.

8 thoughts on “BlizzCon: Raids & Dungeons

  1. Lol! Too, too funny. I’m about *this close* to cancelling my sub. *sigh* But I probably won’t, since one of the main folks I used to play WoW with is returning from Afghanistan at the end of the month. I think he’s planning on playing WoW less when he gets back (but more tabletop gaming–whooo!), though, so we’ll see how long I bother to stick in there. Sure, the new expansion sounds kinda interesting, but worth the full price if you aren’t a raider? I’m thinking… no.

  2. Worth buying if you’re not a raider? Well, another ten levels of content, that’s non-raider. Read the forums, and you’d think raising the level cap is ANTI-raider.

    Actually, when I mentioned new dances and changing character appearance, that sold my gf on the expansion right then. (I seriously doubt she’ll hit the level cap beforehand, she didn’t hit the old cap until after BC came out.)

  3. Well, another ten levels of content, that’s non-raider.

    Lol. Most games these days give out 10 levels of content for free while Blizz tends to charge the price of nearly a full game for their expansions. I can get through 10 levels of content pretty quickly, and I’m not a hard-core gamer. I can’t imagine paying full box price if that’s the majority of what there is in the expansion for me to make use of. And while I’m sure new dances and hairstyles are nice and all, that’s maybe five to ten minutes of entertainment right there. I have a limited budget—if it’s going to come down to paying for another 10 levels of the same kinds of quests and monsters, or something new and different like Pirates of the Burning Sea, I know where my money’s going.

  4. If horde is getting fear ward, alliance damn well better be getting a Will-of-the-Forsaken-like ability.

  5. Thanks for the compliment.

    As a writer it’s nice to see that people actually enjoy reading the things that I say, as opposed to only the things I manage to get other people to say.

  6. If they combined account attunements with, say, account reputation…I might come back. Part of why I quit was I was fed up with my 70 shaman being a healbot, and I loved playing my warlock (64) but when I thought about doing all the same rep grinds on my ‘lock that I did with my shaman…that was when I said screw it.

  7. Same here. Alt rep grinding = no way.

    While I’m thinking on similar topic, would you ever try to talk a friend into checking out WoW — with max level at 80 and the rep grinds they’d need and the resist gear to collect and … everything. That’s another no way.

    Easier just to buy an account off some auction site. Hell, in most guilds people are leaving the game all the time and donate their account to guild or to whichever guildmate wants their old character.

  8. asier just to buy an account off some auction site. Hell, in most guilds people are leaving the game all the time and donate their account to guild or to whichever guildmate wants their old character.

    Which is why Blizzard probally still hasnt noticed that anyone has a problem with anything they are doing which would cause them to quit. They might be quitting, but their accounts stay active.

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