The World of Warcraft community is maturing.
Originally, I was going to lead off with: The Warcraft community is maturing nicely. Then, a few more days into my triumphant return to Warcraft I realized that not all of the maturation is nice, but it still qualifies as maturation … inevitable, long overdue some might say, but not entirely nice.
Backtracking quickly: I went to play Guild Wars for a few months after release and very recently, I returned to World of Warcraft for a change of gaming pace. I spent a few hours the first day back just re-memorizing my UI and what skills/spells I had or still lacked, where the hell did all my craft materials go, goddamn I’ll need more money soon, bla bla — you know how it is when you leave a game for an extended period. I can’t be grouping or raiding until I have my mojo back, ffs. That would be embarassing AND dangerous.
Next few hours, I shopped around for a group or raid to join with the guildmates and a few strangers, and I was pleasantly surprised. Ya. Me. Surprised. And pleasantly.
Somehow, in my absence and with no further instruction from me, it seemed the entire server has learned some of the gaming fundamentals: winky dink casters stand BEHIND the warriors, rogues watch their own bacon, priests ditch aggro early and often, paladins aren’t wading into piles of elite mobs, the good news just kept on a’coming.
In fact, I had several groups and raids IN A ROW that were smashing successes.
This could not last.
Cue the loot whores and the “evolved” professional farmers.
There really isn’t much difference between the two other than the latter is whoring to pay the real life bills, and the former is whoring because that’s their nature. Regardless, both whore types random on every piece of crap so fast, they can’t possibly have enough time to do the mouseover – check the stats – compare to current equipment routine.
Is their knowledge of equipment names and stats so encyclopedic that they don’t need to even look? I don’t know. But I do know this: they will argue to the death over every goddamn dribble of loot until I’m begging for a bullet to the head.
If getting a raid off the ground didn’t take so fucking long in this game, I’d boot their asses as soon as they begin their “I want this” “I want that” “I need this” “I need that” shit.
Have you had any of the Merit Players try to sneak into your raids? Heh, I did a few days ago. Prima-fucking-donna, thank the LORD she arrived to give us her mage goodness. First words out of her mouth, “I want (some piece of caster shit), as long as everyone agrees to that, let’s go! :)”
Imagine an uncomfortable silence as everyone else, including the warlock, the other mage and two priests try to process this news.
I figured that I’d help out because I was damn tired of trying to fill this last slot in the raid: “Yes, I agree that you want (that piece of caster shit).” I mean wtf, now we have to discuss what MIGHT drop and what we’ll do IF it drops? Isn’t that what guilds and friends are for? Or maybe they got tired of meriting to her.
The other casters found their tongues and a few still needed that item as well, so it was “adieu and farewell” to the primadonna. I wanted to ask if she would summon some water for all of us before she left, but she was too quick with the /disband. (darn) Good riddance, I can just imagine the whining she would have done for each and every chest, crate, quest item and/or craft component.
If a player is going to ask for a merit, shouldn’t they advertise for raids like this: 60 mage lfg strat, scholo, UBRS, where I’ll be merited (some piece of caster shit)? Would make it easier for the rest of us to avoid them.
Here’s something else I’ve noticed about loot whores: their interpretation of Need Before Greed is really loose! Like “I need to disenchant some higher level equipment” or “My alt needs a better chest item” or even “I need money to buy something on the Auction House.”
Depending upon how far into an instance we are and how impressed I’ve been with their performance thus far, I just boot them out and enjoy the countdown to the auto-port to Ironforge. No explanation necessary.
C’mon! We all KNOW what Need Before Greed means, and no one is confused by its nuances. If they were confused in any way, wouldn’t they just ask for a ruling on the spot? Heh, they never do — they just random and scoop it up, only explaining their pretzel logic if confronted.
If they’re gonna claim NBG in Foton’s raid, I want to see that shit equipped. Sometimes I like to see some prancing around with “look at me! look at me!” (enthusiasm and gratitude is good), but that’s optional.
Never let it be said that I don’t run a tight raid. Save that “give me this” shit for your momma.
Tomorrow — protecting your raid from the professionals.
Yeah, had that crap happen on an UBRS raid this past weekend. We got 4/5 of the way to the ending and a purple dropped. It was BOE and there was a scuffle over who got the 1H mace with healing bonus. The priest obviously would have more *need* than someone who ended up getting it (a mage I think).
Anyways, a fight errupted over it and one of the freaking bastard Warriors decided that the best way to resolve the issue would be to charge into the next room, aggro EVERYTHING, and have everyone die. Thank god I had a SS on the priest. Of course, we kicked the warrior and his helper and spent the next 30 mins trying to reform the group.
I’m curious how the mage thought he was going to equip that 1H mace.
Yah i hate that bullcrap people pull where some BoE blue or purple will drop and out of NO WHERE the ARMS WARIOR will claim he NEEEEDS that sheild that just dropped because one day he “might” go protection. SCREW THAT! That shit will get you banned from raids I do or am in quicker then you can say “Imadouche”.
On another note. I dont think TWICE about leaving a raid group in the begining of a run if it starts to show that people are fukin incompetent dick holes that dont know what they’re doing. Like rogues bitching the priest isn’t giving them full heals while the warrior is neck deep in boss mob shit.
Not liking the fact that the mobs are beating the ever living CRAP out of you because you stole agro from the Tank(s)? TO FRIKEN BAD USE FAINT OR SOME OTHER AGRO TRICK YOU DOUCHEBAG!
I also cant stand it when another paladin in my raid group is being a dumbass and giving blessing of wisdom to the mages INSTEAD of the salvation he should be doing to ALLLLLLLLLL his party except the Tank.
There i’m done venting.
on my server there is currently a large discussion of purple should be affected by NBG rules or not.
The way i see it random purple items (like krol blade) should be rolled among the whole group, but if rogue XY wants it he can buy it for a sensible price from the winner.
I ran ~30 raids with that rule and the one time we had a purple drop it actually worked (with a rogue buying the krol for 250g from the mage who won)
BoE = $$$ at the AH.
When I played a priest I got away with the premadonna whoring of the loots.
“If that specific shiney drops it’s mine or I don’t roll with your group.”
I’ve been burned and unlucky too many times on shitty drop rates with pugs in the past, but I didn’t and still don’t have a regular crew of foozles in WoW, making my loot whoring tough. And yes, it’s an ass move, but when you don’t have a regular crew all that matters is the loot and looting rules like random and the vague interpretation of nbg are your worst enemy. haha.
What the heck are you doing in pickup groups and raids? Join a guild that isn’t full of morons and all of these problems go away. I can’t see why you’d whine about grouping with morons if you choose to group with morons instead of taking the standard moron-avoidance route: join a guild.
Yes, there are guild that raid (and actually kill bosses) and aren’t full of morons.
I am in a guild. Important raids, we don’t allow outsiders for the very reasons you cite. There are other situations and instances where outsiders are allowed.
I believe the large majority of WoW players regularly group with non-guildies. Some times (most times?) these are satisfactory grouping experiences.
What about alts? Raid guilds aren’t going to carry an alt, they don’t even want to see the alt, until it’s viable in the endgame.
if your guild has been running ubrs for 5 months then you probably will have problems filling a group at a moments notice (with the exception of patch days and pre-quests added :p we had 5 simultaneous runs going then )